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    e agora sobre chaos SM

    Mensagem por dark intet em Qui Abr 19, 2012 12:57 pm

    theDarkGeneral tells us:

    Quote Originally Posted by theDarkGeneral View Post
    it won't change according to your Legion (HQs) as in swapping more Heavies for less Fast, but your access to units in those categories opens up, becomes limited, or closes off accordingly. Easy example I was given, is taking Khorne Daemon Prince means no Scouts...
    And goes on to say the following about the different Legions:

    Quote Originally Posted by theDarkGeneral View Post
    *Nightlords: I don't ask much about them, though a lil' i have for my buddy Paul has around 25,000+ points of them...Hit & Run and Stealth for universal special rules, but possible counter attack (for elite unit) as well as jump pack troops.

    *Word Bearers: Apparently getting a lil' extra attention, and besides Dark Apostles, new models for "daemonancers", which just might be unit champs/sgt upgrades. I'm not sure. BUT, their summoning of Daemons from the Warp apparently allows re-rolls on the scatter dice, as well as new mishap chart!

    *Deathguard: Feel no pain and blight grenades for their Cult Terminators, new nasty flamers upgrades.

    *Thousand Sons: AP3 bolters will be MUCH more useful under 6th Edition, and a couple new Psychic abilities, one of which (supposedly) can remove an entire enemy squad from the table on a failed stat test!

    *Iron Warriors: Access to Thunder Hammer & Storm Shield termies, thunderfire cannon off-shoot, Havocs w/Tank Hunters and relentless for some squad...

    *Emperor's Children: Lash is finally changed to be more in line with Daemon version. More heavy weapons upgrade count for larger units. Better Bikes? Not sure what that means...

    *Alpha Legion: Lots of infiltrating abilities, outflanking, and even temporary control of enemy squads/vehicles...basically sneaky bastards!

    *Black Legion: HQs allow broader access to all unit types, but lack of better universal special rules.
    He later added:

    Quote Originally Posted by theDarkGeneral View Post
    *Word Bearers: Will be able to take Marked units but with some restrictions. Apparently with all the current Black Library Books out on them (I'm enjoying their reads!), and mention of the Sanctified in Siege of Vraks, the ability to take Marked units has been brought up. Not sure how they'll do this, if it'll be a 1 unit for 1 unit.

    *Alpha Legion: Hardest to get info on, but "might" be able to force a re-roll on the type of scenario?! This honestly sounds more like a Special Character ability to me...but we'll see...

    *Iron Warriors: Their Cult Terminators will have access to Thunder Hammer & Storm Shields, as well as Iron-Fire Cannon (thunder fire). Basic Chaos Marine squads "may" be able to take an additional heavy weapons team once past 10 models...
    And later still:

    Quote Originally Posted by theDarkGeneral View Post
    Death Guard gain a new ability (maybe Chosen squads only ?) that allows their poisoned attacks to ignore Armor Saves on a roll of a '6', much similar to Rending without the extra Armor Pen.

    Iron Warriors become "siege specialists" which equivalents to Tank Hunters and reducing cover saves on enemy units!

    Word Bearers are "zealots" and benefit from Chaplains as well as Turn 1 Daemon Summoning. New Daemonancers models are suppose to be SICK looking, but I believe just unit champ upgrades.

    Emperor's Children have a haughtiness to them, but prideful, which may give them counter charge (on top of their already higher Initiative). More heavy weapons upgrades per squad, and their Chosen will be...scary fast!

    Alpha Legion apparently have the greatest access to Imperial style vehicles, as well as more of an unlimited Force Org slot selections, next to the Black Legion. Much of their Army will be able to upgrade to "Infiltrators".

    Black Legion, aka Sons of Horus, aka Luna Wolves are tentatively stubborn, and have greatest selection amongst the units/vehicles. HOWEVER, they're not fully trusted, not sure how this works out in game terms.

    World Eaters truly become the combat monsters they're story lined to be. Marked Dreads, and Daemon Engines will be a prime staple in most Armies...
    theDarkGeneral has more recently claimed that Alpha Legion may force enemies to take Ld tests before they move or shoot. And more recently again, that they may be able to pass on their Infiltration abilities to their transports.




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    Re: e agora sobre chaos SM

    Mensagem por hellboy em Qui Abr 19, 2012 1:02 pm

    hum.....

    deixa sair para ver se é verdade, cheira-me a to god to be true


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    Mensagem por Kopos em Qui Abr 19, 2012 1:32 pm

    quando é que isto sai mesmo?
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    Mensagem por hellboy em Qui Abr 19, 2012 3:30 pm

    Mais rumores do BOLS

    Don't you just hate competing rumors? Two "new" branches of the rumormill tree just shot up in the last three days. Here's what the rumormongers are saying for the next codex:


    1) Chaos Legions is next -
    PROS: codices are said to back from printers, minis are done, matches the power-armor / non power armor release pattern
    CONS: GW's desire to wait till after 6th launches to put out such an important and awaited book and mini range.
    RUMORMONGER CREDIBILITY: Average

    2) Tau is next -
    PROS: last major ancient un-updated codex from 4th, minis are done, and on ice for months, no word on codex
    CONS: Surprise rumor coming out of nowhere, would be 2 xenos in a row for codex releases
    RUMORMONGER CREDIBILITY: Average

    3) Dark Angels are next-
    PROS: older codex in need of an update, DA minis seen in the new starter painting sets, matches the power-armor / non power armor release pattern
    CONS: Yet another marine variant, with low interest compared to the other contenders, after 6 months of no new 40K codices.
    RUMORMONGER CREDIBILITY: Low

    The "conventional wisdom" (a whole 2 months old) of Chaos being next happened after a hoaxster from early in the year admitted feeding a bunch of bull regarding upcoming Tau Empire rules. Before that happened, and for several months before that incident, the conventional wisdom had Tau as the last codex of 5th Edition. Dark Angels were the fallback as the "low-risk quick update" if GW just wanted to get something easy out the door to fill space before 6th.


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    Mensagem por dark intet em Sab Abr 28, 2012 10:27 am

    Well, it looks like Blood of Kitten's melted their server. Here is today's rumor dump on the upcoming Chaos Marine book. Gird your loins gentlemen...


    via BoK

    With that said let us get started.

    Troops choices will be Chaos Space Marines and Cultists
    All Cult Marines are Elites
    No new Special Characters
    Special Characters will unlock Cult Marines as troops (Kharn for Berserkers and so on)
    Typhus makes Cultists into Zombies
    Chaos Dreadnaught is removed and replaced with a new unit (like how pariahs were replaced with Lychguard)
    CSM now get a Flyer a Mechanical Chaos Dragon (model is done will be part of initial release)
    Lesser and Greater Demons are gone
    Spawn replaced by “Fell Beast”

    I feel like I am missing something…

    Oh yeah…
    Almost Forgot...
    Rules for Traitor Guard are in!



    This is a hard one to swallow. On the one hand, BoK has a proven track record with rumors over several codices (even the ones we didn't want to hear or believe). I could see Spawn being "removed" to be wrapped into a larger more generic unit of various "Chaos Gribblies" such as spawn, mutant ogres, etc..., but the lack of a Dreadnought just seems wrong. Same thing though, I could see the Dreadnought being wrapped into a broader unit category that might include various Chaos mechanical constructs, and you get to pick which exact type. The one that really sticks in my craw is that mention of a Mechanical Dragon - really? Why make something as silly as that when we have the Hellblade/talon already available as a perfectly good looking Chaos flyers from both Forgeworld, and several Black Library novels.

    I'm seeing two choices here:
    1) BoK is being fed bunk from his sources
    2) The loss of the old timers like Priestley, Cavatore, Gav, and all the others has finally caught up with GW. The kids are running the place and we can all kiss the "established" fluff bye-bye...

    I hope its the former, but have a gut feeling its the latter. Your call.


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    Mensagem por Warhound em Sab Abr 28, 2012 11:31 am

    Dragão de caos mecanico? acho improvavel, mas se sair, vou-me rir.
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    Mensagem por camisa em Sab Abr 28, 2012 2:04 pm

    não sejas mau mestre!!!! Se tiver asas fica pipi lol
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    Mensagem por Ebizo em Sab Abr 28, 2012 5:45 pm

    LOL!! Muito pipi..tou a ver a malta a ficar "wtf" Shocked
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    Mensagem por dark intet em Dom Abr 29, 2012 12:38 am

    yah um dragão no futuro !!!!! estes gajos da GW agora só inventam, qualquer dias os SM vão ter, sei lá..... talvez um grifo movido a pilhas scratch scratch scratch lol! lol!


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    Mensagem por dark intet em Dom Abr 29, 2012 10:20 am

    40K RUMORS: On Chaos Marines and 6th
    Posted by Bigred at Sunday, April 29, 2012

    Apparently the floodgates are open, all kinds of rumormongers are talking. Here are some choice 40k morsels said to be coming our way in the days ahead:



    Chaos Marines
    -The "flying dragon thingy" is coming. It is a flyer and one of two entirely new units added to the codex.
    -The second new unit is said to be a Chaos answer to the Grey Knight Dreadknight.
    -The Chaos Dreadnought is indeed still there (take a breath people), but gets a new name, and a rules overhaul.
    -Hardcover book (just like Fantasy army books)


    6th Edition
    -Many of the general concepts from magic from Warhammer Fantasy are coming to Warhammer 40,000.
    -There will be "lore equivalents"
    -Psychic powers will be generated randomly by psykers (like fantasy)
    -Entirely new rules for constructing army lists (~Look at Fantasy for hints)
    -The FOC may be history


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    Mensagem por Ebizo em Dom Abr 29, 2012 10:46 am

    LOL...magia em 40k..isto vai ser bonito..vai começar a malta andar com psykers por todo o lado. Razz

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